Phoenix is joined by Vanessa Chakour and Bryan Winston. They discuss the relationship with humans, animals, and the environment. Vanessa is an herbalist, artist, activist, meditation teacher, former boxer, and trainer.
Vanessa shares her personal story, her athletic background, her connection to nature, and how she has connected them all. Phoenix and Vanessa talk about their asthma, love for the outdoors and animals, and fitness.
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